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		<title>By: Ralf Lambrecht</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16815</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralf Lambrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A protracted colonial war 

With US support, Israel is hoping to isolate and topple Syria by holding sway over Lebanon 

Tariq Ali / Thursday July 20, 2006 / The Guardian 

In his last interview - after the 1967 six-day war - the historian Isaac Deutscher, whose next-of-kin had died in the Nazi camps and whose surviving relations lived in Israel, said: &quot;To justify or condone Israel&#039;s wars against the Arabs is to render Israel a very bad service indeed and harm its own long-term interest.&quot; Comparing Israel to Prussia, he issued a sombre warning: &quot;The Germans have summed up their own experience in the bitter phrase &#039;Man kann sich totseigen!&#039; &#039;You can triumph yourself to death&#039;.&quot;

In Israel&#039;s actions today we can detect many of the elements of hubris: an imperial arrogance, a distortion of reality, an awareness of its military superiority, the self-righteousness with which it wrecks the social infrastructure of weaker states, and a belief in its racial superiority. The loss of many civilian lives in Gaza and Lebanon matters less than the capture or death of a single Israeli soldier. In this, Israeli actions are validated by the US.

The offensive against Gaza is designed to destroy Hamas for daring to win an election. The &quot;international community&quot; stood by as Gaza suffered collective punishment. Dozens of innocents continue to die. This meant nothing to the G8 leaders. Nothing was done.

Israeli recklessness is always green-lighted by Washington. In this case, their interests coincide. They want to isolate and topple the Syrian regime by securing Lebanon as an Israeli-American protectorate on the Jordanian model. They argue this was the original design of the country. Contemporary Lebanon, it is true, still remains in large measure the artificial creation of French colonialism it was at the outset - a coastal band of Greater Syria sliced off from its hinterland by Paris to form a regional client dominated by a Maronite minority.

The country&#039;s confessional chequerboard has never allowed an accurate census, for fear of revealing that a substantial Muslim - today perhaps even a Shia - majority is denied due representation in the political system. Sectarian tensions, over-determined by the plight of refugees from Palestine, exploded into civil war in the 1970s, providing for the entry of Syrian troops, with tacit US approval, and their establishment there - ostensibly as a buffer between the warring factions, and deterrent to an Israeli takeover, on the cards with the invasions of 1978 and 1982 (when Hizbullah did not exist).

The killing of Rafik Hariri provoked vast demonstrations by the middle class, demanding the expulsion of the Syrians, while western organisations arrived to assist the progress of a Cedar Revolution. Backed by threats from Washington and Paris, the momentum was sufficient to force a Syrian withdrawal and produce a weak government in Beirut.

But Lebanon&#039;s factions remained spread-eagled. Hizbullah had not disarmed, and Syria has not fallen. Washington had taken a pawn, but the castle had still to be captured. I was in Beirut in May, when the Israeli army entered and killed two &quot;terrorists&quot; from a Palestinian splinter group. The latter responded with rockets. Israeli warplanes punished Hizbullah by dropping over 50 bombs on its villages and headquarters near the border. The latest Israeli offensive is designed to take the castle. Will it succeed? A protracted colonial war lies ahead, since Hizbullah, like Hamas, has mass support. It cannot be written off as a &quot;terrorist&quot; organisation. The Arab world sees its forces as freedom fighters resisting colonial occupation.

There are 9,000 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli gulags. That is why Israeli soldiers are captured. Prisoner exchanges have occurred as a result. To blame Syria and Iran for Israel&#039;s latest offensive is frivolous. Until the question of Palestine is resolved and Iraq&#039;s occupation ended, there will be no peace in the region. A &quot;UN&quot; force to deter Hizbullah, but not Israel, is a nonsensical notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A protracted colonial war </p>
<p>With US support, Israel is hoping to isolate and topple Syria by holding sway over Lebanon </p>
<p>Tariq Ali / Thursday July 20, 2006 / The Guardian </p>
<p>In his last interview &#8211; after the 1967 six-day war &#8211; the historian Isaac Deutscher, whose next-of-kin had died in the Nazi camps and whose surviving relations lived in Israel, said: &#8220;To justify or condone Israel&#8217;s wars against the Arabs is to render Israel a very bad service indeed and harm its own long-term interest.&#8221; Comparing Israel to Prussia, he issued a sombre warning: &#8220;The Germans have summed up their own experience in the bitter phrase &#8216;Man kann sich totseigen!&#8217; &#8216;You can triumph yourself to death&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Israel&#8217;s actions today we can detect many of the elements of hubris: an imperial arrogance, a distortion of reality, an awareness of its military superiority, the self-righteousness with which it wrecks the social infrastructure of weaker states, and a belief in its racial superiority. The loss of many civilian lives in Gaza and Lebanon matters less than the capture or death of a single Israeli soldier. In this, Israeli actions are validated by the US.</p>
<p>The offensive against Gaza is designed to destroy Hamas for daring to win an election. The &#8220;international community&#8221; stood by as Gaza suffered collective punishment. Dozens of innocents continue to die. This meant nothing to the G8 leaders. Nothing was done.</p>
<p>Israeli recklessness is always green-lighted by Washington. In this case, their interests coincide. They want to isolate and topple the Syrian regime by securing Lebanon as an Israeli-American protectorate on the Jordanian model. They argue this was the original design of the country. Contemporary Lebanon, it is true, still remains in large measure the artificial creation of French colonialism it was at the outset &#8211; a coastal band of Greater Syria sliced off from its hinterland by Paris to form a regional client dominated by a Maronite minority.</p>
<p>The country&#8217;s confessional chequerboard has never allowed an accurate census, for fear of revealing that a substantial Muslim &#8211; today perhaps even a Shia &#8211; majority is denied due representation in the political system. Sectarian tensions, over-determined by the plight of refugees from Palestine, exploded into civil war in the 1970s, providing for the entry of Syrian troops, with tacit US approval, and their establishment there &#8211; ostensibly as a buffer between the warring factions, and deterrent to an Israeli takeover, on the cards with the invasions of 1978 and 1982 (when Hizbullah did not exist).</p>
<p>The killing of Rafik Hariri provoked vast demonstrations by the middle class, demanding the expulsion of the Syrians, while western organisations arrived to assist the progress of a Cedar Revolution. Backed by threats from Washington and Paris, the momentum was sufficient to force a Syrian withdrawal and produce a weak government in Beirut.</p>
<p>But Lebanon&#8217;s factions remained spread-eagled. Hizbullah had not disarmed, and Syria has not fallen. Washington had taken a pawn, but the castle had still to be captured. I was in Beirut in May, when the Israeli army entered and killed two &#8220;terrorists&#8221; from a Palestinian splinter group. The latter responded with rockets. Israeli warplanes punished Hizbullah by dropping over 50 bombs on its villages and headquarters near the border. The latest Israeli offensive is designed to take the castle. Will it succeed? A protracted colonial war lies ahead, since Hizbullah, like Hamas, has mass support. It cannot be written off as a &#8220;terrorist&#8221; organisation. The Arab world sees its forces as freedom fighters resisting colonial occupation.</p>
<p>There are 9,000 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli gulags. That is why Israeli soldiers are captured. Prisoner exchanges have occurred as a result. To blame Syria and Iran for Israel&#8217;s latest offensive is frivolous. Until the question of Palestine is resolved and Iraq&#8217;s occupation ended, there will be no peace in the region. A &#8220;UN&#8221; force to deter Hizbullah, but not Israel, is a nonsensical notion.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller Savant</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16808</link>
		<dc:creator>Miller Savant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ref. johnny &#039;s question: &quot;HOW COME WE DO NOT SEE ANY VIDEO OR PICTURES OF HEZBOLLAH’S MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE RUINS OR RUBBLE AFTER AN ISRAELI ATTACK?&quot; 

ANSWER: That&#039;s because Israeli&#039;s can only drop bombs from the sky on women and children, when it comes to land combat, they drop the cameras and run like cowards! 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref. johnny &#8217;s question: &#8220;HOW COME WE DO NOT SEE ANY VIDEO OR PICTURES OF HEZBOLLAH’S MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE RUINS OR RUBBLE AFTER AN ISRAELI ATTACK?&#8221; </p>
<p>ANSWER: That&#8217;s because Israeli&#8217;s can only drop bombs from the sky on women and children, when it comes to land combat, they drop the cameras and run like cowards! </p>
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		<title>By: Dopayza</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16807</link>
		<dc:creator>Dopayza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zinovi Golodner says &quot;If, god forbid, sixty women and children were killed by a Hizb. rocket... the rest of the world would not make a peep about it.&quot;

On the contrary, Israeli would shout &#039;anti-semetic&#039;, &#039;holocaust repeated&#039;, &#039;poor innocent israelis&#039;, and would suck another 10 billion dollars out of the US.

It is only when Israel massacres thousands of Arabs as in Sabra that the world does not make a peep about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zinovi Golodner says &#8220;If, god forbid, sixty women and children were killed by a Hizb. rocket&#8230; the rest of the world would not make a peep about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the contrary, Israeli would shout &#8216;anti-semetic&#8217;, &#8216;holocaust repeated&#8217;, &#8216;poor innocent israelis&#8217;, and would suck another 10 billion dollars out of the US.</p>
<p>It is only when Israel massacres thousands of Arabs as in Sabra that the world does not make a peep about it.</p>
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		<title>By: gkam</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16806</link>
		<dc:creator>gkam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we should just make the Middle East an official Free-fire Zone, and permit all religious zealots to slash, burn, kill and maim, in the name of their all-loving and wise gods.

Since everyone is so concerned with the world of old, however, killing must be restricted to hand-held weapons- and no firearms.  

The truly devout would be glad to personally abuse his/her enemies face-to-face, rather than send our kids and the kids of others to do their dirty work for them, . . right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we should just make the Middle East an official Free-fire Zone, and permit all religious zealots to slash, burn, kill and maim, in the name of their all-loving and wise gods.</p>
<p>Since everyone is so concerned with the world of old, however, killing must be restricted to hand-held weapons- and no firearms.  </p>
<p>The truly devout would be glad to personally abuse his/her enemies face-to-face, rather than send our kids and the kids of others to do their dirty work for them, . . right?</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16805</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE A QUESTION, HOW COME WE DO NOT SEE ANY VIDEO OR PICTURES OF HEZBOLLAH&#039;S MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE RUINS OR RUBBLE AFTER AN ISRAELI ATTACK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE A QUESTION, HOW COME WE DO NOT SEE ANY VIDEO OR PICTURES OF HEZBOLLAH&#8217;S MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE RUINS OR RUBBLE AFTER AN ISRAELI ATTACK?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank.</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16803</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Lebanese become increasingly angered by Israel&#039;s tactics, Hezbollah appears to be growing in popularity.

A recent poll by the Beirut Centre for Research recorded that 87% of Lebanese from all sects supported the &quot;resistance&#039;s fight against Israeli aggression on Lebanon&quot;.

Nasrullah must be saying &quot;Thanks you, Olmert&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Lebanese become increasingly angered by Israel&#8217;s tactics, Hezbollah appears to be growing in popularity.</p>
<p>A recent poll by the Beirut Centre for Research recorded that 87% of Lebanese from all sects supported the &#8220;resistance&#8217;s fight against Israeli aggression on Lebanon&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nasrullah must be saying &#8220;Thanks you, Olmert&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Zinovi Golodner</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16802</link>
		<dc:creator>Zinovi Golodner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If, god forbid, sixty women and children were killed by a Hizb. rocket, on the streets of Lebanon, West Bank and Gaza candies would be handed out (we saw it on Dept. 12), and the rest of the world would not make a peep about it. 
It is when cowardly Hizballah sacrifices its children the Israelis take the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, god forbid, sixty women and children were killed by a Hizb. rocket, on the streets of Lebanon, West Bank and Gaza candies would be handed out (we saw it on Dept. 12), and the rest of the world would not make a peep about it.<br />
It is when cowardly Hizballah sacrifices its children the Israelis take the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Maher</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16801</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel has let itself be played like a fiddle by Hezbol

No, only simple minded people, like yourself.  You have to know, and every anti-semitic who blasts America and Israel, that Hizbollah intentionally uses civilians as sheilds.  They know the media and those apt to beleive the propaganda will do their bidding.  NO MERCEY!!! We win by beatting them, NO Wars do not end with negotiations!  They end when there is a winner.  We didn&#039;t poll the Japanese, we didn&#039;t run out and show all the babies and women killed. We didn&#039;t talk about the insurgents in Germany being freedom fighters.  We killed them and brought them to their Knees.  Can you actually argue that the world is not better off now or should we have just let the Nazi&#039;s have 1/2 of Europe, in a negotiation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel has let itself be played like a fiddle by Hezbol</p>
<p>No, only simple minded people, like yourself.  You have to know, and every anti-semitic who blasts America and Israel, that Hizbollah intentionally uses civilians as sheilds.  They know the media and those apt to beleive the propaganda will do their bidding.  NO MERCEY!!! We win by beatting them, NO Wars do not end with negotiations!  They end when there is a winner.  We didn&#8217;t poll the Japanese, we didn&#8217;t run out and show all the babies and women killed. We didn&#8217;t talk about the insurgents in Germany being freedom fighters.  We killed them and brought them to their Knees.  Can you actually argue that the world is not better off now or should we have just let the Nazi&#8217;s have 1/2 of Europe, in a negotiation?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16800</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody seems to have addressed the real problem: religion.

We will never be safe until we rid ourselves of this irrational need for a &quot;Superdaddy&quot; who will take care of us and promise us that we won&#039;t really die. 

We are killing each other over ideas that exist only in our heads.  Isn&#039;t it time we grew up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody seems to have addressed the real problem: religion.</p>
<p>We will never be safe until we rid ourselves of this irrational need for a &#8220;Superdaddy&#8221; who will take care of us and promise us that we won&#8217;t really die. </p>
<p>We are killing each other over ideas that exist only in our heads.  Isn&#8217;t it time we grew up?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank.</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16797</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world condemns Israel action. The UN Security Council is in emergency session - Secretary General Kofi Annan has condemned Israeli action. The UK ambassador there calls it 
&#039;unacceptable&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world condemns Israel action. The UN Security Council is in emergency session &#8211; Secretary General Kofi Annan has condemned Israeli action. The UK ambassador there calls it<br />
&#8216;unacceptable&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Problem Solver</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16796</link>
		<dc:creator>Problem Solver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an easy solution to all this. Since Israel is &#039;mideasts only democracy(!)&#039;, lets give the palestinians the right of return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an easy solution to all this. Since Israel is &#8216;mideasts only democracy(!)&#8217;, lets give the palestinians the right of return.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceaser Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceaser Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caesar Augustus is an idiot. A large number of arabs (eg. Lebanon) ARE Christians!
What an absolute jerk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caesar Augustus is an idiot. A large number of arabs (eg. Lebanon) ARE Christians!<br />
What an absolute jerk!</p>
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		<title>By: Spaulding, S</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-2/#comment-16794</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaulding, S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bombing of Qana brings an end to the holocaust arguement. Israel is a rabid war machine that has been killing arabs in their country for 6 decades. It is time the world brought the Israeli war machine to its knees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bombing of Qana brings an end to the holocaust arguement. Israel is a rabid war machine that has been killing arabs in their country for 6 decades. It is time the world brought the Israeli war machine to its knees.</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-1/#comment-16792</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel is a terrorist state, no question about it. Mel Gibson got it right: All the Zionists want are bloody wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is a terrorist state, no question about it. Mel Gibson got it right: All the Zionists want are bloody wars.</p>
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		<title>By: War4Sale</title>
		<link>http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/07/30/the-turning-point/comment-page-1/#comment-16789</link>
		<dc:creator>War4Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel is carpet bombing civilian populations.

Attacking non-combatants is terrorism whether it is carried out by a suicide bomber or by the Israeli Defense Force.

No more of our tax dollars for Israeli occupation and terrorism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is carpet bombing civilian populations.</p>
<p>Attacking non-combatants is terrorism whether it is carried out by a suicide bomber or by the Israeli Defense Force.</p>
<p>No more of our tax dollars for Israeli occupation and terrorism!</p>
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