Comments on: Chinese Internet Scam – Buying Center & Trip To China – Guilin Youlianshiye http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/ Israel news, politics, people, pictures, video and much much more .. really! Trust Us .... Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:45:19 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Susie http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-2/#comment-205357 Susie Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:57:16 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-205357 I've seen your exposure of the scammer , Y&L Foreign trading Co.,Ltd on the internet. I'm writing to give you some evidences of their scamming. I once worked in the company without knowing it is a fake company. I feel terribly shame of them when I discover the tureth. They're giving bad names to China. I can not bare seeing other companies keep falling into their trap. As a conscientious man I feel obliged to do something to stop this. Do contact me. I'll be glad to send you some internal materials to reveal them. eyouyou01001@yeah.net I’ve seen your exposure of the scammer , Y&L Foreign trading Co.,Ltd on the internet. I’m writing to give you some evidences of their scamming. I once worked in the company without knowing it is a fake company. I feel terribly shame of them when I discover the tureth. They’re giving bad names to China. I can not bare seeing other companies keep falling into their trap. As a conscientious man I feel obliged to do something to stop this.
Do contact me. I’ll be glad to send you some internal materials to reveal them.
eyouyou01001@yeah.net

]]> By: G. N. M. http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-205193 G. N. M. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:46:01 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-205193 I have had the exact same experience as # 46 however I actually wound up buying a gift. In my case, the receipts were somehow switched because when I returned to the US, I had calls from my bank about fraudulent activity. It seems had purchased a $4,600 gold bar from this department store. Since my signature was on the slip, they would not refund my money. The company I met with is called Shenyang Lofty Ambition Company. I have all their business cards, a signed and company-sealed contract, AND A PICTURE OF ME WITH THEIR SUPPOSED VP. I am VERY INTERESTED in pursuing this to its lawful conclusion. Please feel free to contact me regarding this. Glenn Mantel ARBORA INDUSTRIES INTERNATIONAL LTDA. glenn.mantel@arbora-industries.com I have had the exact same experience as # 46 however I actually wound up buying a gift. In my case, the receipts were somehow switched because when I returned to the US, I had calls from my bank about fraudulent activity. It seems had purchased a $4,600 gold bar from this department store. Since my signature was on the slip, they would not refund my money.

The company I met with is called Shenyang Lofty Ambition Company. I have all their business cards, a signed and company-sealed contract, AND A PICTURE OF ME WITH THEIR SUPPOSED VP.

I am VERY INTERESTED in pursuing this to its lawful conclusion. Please feel free to contact me regarding this.

Glenn Mantel
ARBORA INDUSTRIES INTERNATIONAL LTDA.
glenn.mantel@arbora-industries.com

]]> By: marilyn silva http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-205088 marilyn silva Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:20:09 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-205088 I was unlucky enough to be done by a China ! i odered from http://www.luckymannequin.com and he never sent me my goods ,it is now 4 months and i have heard nothing from Mr Mike Wong ,i went to my police but they can not help ,i feel sick when i think what that man has done to me........beware of lucky human mannequin from China I was unlucky enough to be done by a China ! i odered from http://www.luckymannequin.com and he never sent me my goods ,it is now 4 months and i have heard nothing from Mr Mike Wong ,i went to my police but they can not help ,i feel sick when i think what that man has done to me……..beware of lucky human mannequin from China

]]> By: J. Edwards http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204927 J. Edwards Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:35:14 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204927 Folks, dealing with companies in the Asian market takes time. This part of the world is a high context culture, meaning they require relationship building first before business transactions can take place. They may take months before they decide to complete a deal. Gift giving is appropriate in China and the CEO is expected to receive a gift. They also have a collectivist culture which means they make decisions as a group and that takes time, but once they make that decision its a go. Folks, dealing with companies in the Asian market takes time. This part of the world is a high context culture, meaning they require relationship building first before business transactions can take place. They may take months before they decide to complete a deal. Gift giving is appropriate in China and the CEO is expected to receive a gift. They also have a collectivist culture which means they make decisions as a group and that takes time, but once they make that decision its a go.

]]> By: Editor http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204722 Editor Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:03:57 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204722 Why? You can pay Alibaba and get a trupass gold membership if you were a chimp. Why? You can pay Alibaba and get a trupass gold membership if you were a chimp.

]]> By: Derk Morrison http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204714 Derk Morrison Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:23:35 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204714 Can anyone tell me about Zohou Eastern Trade Co Ltd? They are a trustpass gold member with Alibaba which gives me some confidence but am still unsure. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Can anyone tell me about Zohou Eastern Trade Co Ltd?
They are a trustpass gold member with Alibaba which gives me some confidence but am still unsure.
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

]]> By: Eliana http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204522 Eliana Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:51:38 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204522 Today I saw in Alibaba a request for wine by Guilin Inlian Co. Ltd. Same address as the other Guilin's.... So still in business, even they try to scam so many companies already. They will never give up, because always they will lure somebody under the dream that they purchase a large amount of products. I wasted at least 4 month, send samples and later they requested us to go to China, but after we say no they cancelled the order. All this companies in Alibaba or other sites, scammers they try and see who con be the next one, even if they get a few victims a years they will make a good living. I wrote a letter to de Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles, CA, I never get a response. So there in China everybody is free to do harm, because they do not face any consequence for their acts. Today I saw in Alibaba a request
for wine by Guilin Inlian Co. Ltd.
Same address as the other Guilin’s…. So still in business, even they try to scam so many companies already. They will never give up, because always they will lure somebody under
the dream that they purchase a
large amount of products. I wasted at least 4 month, send samples and later they requested us to go to China, but after we say no they cancelled the order. All this companies in Alibaba or other sites, scammers they try and see
who con be the next one, even if they get a few victims a years they will make a good living. I wrote a letter to de Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles, CA, I never get a response. So there in China everybody is free to do harm, because they do not face any consequence for their acts.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204497 Daniel Wed, 27 May 2009 17:21:10 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204497 I feel pretty dumb as I write these lines. But after reading the posts here I am coming to terms with the possibility that it happened to me recently. Basically, it worked the same way you are describing it here: I got an email showing interest for one of our products. After a few ‘ping-pong’ emails negociating the terms for a $750k contract they asked me to come sign it in China. When asked, they said that because the client was the government they had to have an original stamp on the document… I also tried the ‘pay something in advance to show commitment’ trick but they claimed that the government will not pay this in advance and it’s imperative that we sign it there. They offered to take care of 50% of my travel expenses after they got the cash from their client. The odds being $2000+ (for a 3 night stay) vs. $750k contract, I ended up going to Beijing on mid April 2009. I bought a book on Chinese Etiquete and downloaded some podcasts to learn some basic Chinese… We finally had our meeting. Present were: the guy I had exchanged emails with (Zhang Lei), their “VP” called Wu Mingxuan - he appologized and said the wife of the CEO had an accident the night before so he couldn’t join…, their “CFO” (the guy with the official stamp) I never got his business card, and a woman translator (didn’t get her business card either). We had a 3 hour meeting in which they told me about their company. They said it was established in 1976 and that it had a staff of 47 and did a lot of import/export activities. In addition, they claimed to have two manufacturing facilities in the fields of “food” and “textiles”. They also told me that every year towards July the company has a special dinner for their business associates and they have this special event in which they come from all over the world and spend time together. They tour them around the facilities and socialize over dinner. After a while we went over the contract and when the translator said it was ok we went on and signed it. After this, I gave them a ‘corporate present’ I brought with me from the US (the book mentioned the importance of providing them with a gift…). They thanked me and then it started getting wierd: the “VP” suggested that in order to establish a good relationship with the company I should get a present for the CEO (who couldnt make it) and the 2 Presidents they have at corporate. I thanked him for the suggestion and told them I would have the hotel concierge take care of this. The VP insisted that we should do it now… that he has a few minutes and will gladly take me to a nearby shopping mall and will suggest something. We went to this mall and they wanted me to spend $250 per present (x3)… when I told them this was to much and that I was willing to spend $100, the woman suggested that instead of 3 we should perhaps get one really nice present for the CEO… The VP pointed out a few times that a carton of cigarettes is $100… that I should really give them a nice present. They pointed to this little frame with a golden ship and explained how this meant that we shall have a ’smooth’ relationship just as the ‘wind blows this ship’, etc. I said ok, and when I got the paper slip and when to pay at the cashier, I took the AMEX just on time because I noticed too many zeros on the register… I asked for a calculator and did my math: they were going to charge me $1800 USD… I told them this was way too much and that I would simply bring the CEO and the other 2 a nice present from the US when I came back on July. They insisted and that is when this whole thing kicked in… I told them that according to our tradition it was not nice to ’send someone a present’ and that I would simply bring it to them personally. After this, they escorted me to the door of the shopping mall and we said goodbye. (Strangest business meeting farewell party). I’m back home now and have been trying to contact them several times. No answer to emails and they won’t answer their phones. I am counting the business days (we’re now officially at 27) and hope to see a nice 40% down payment via wire transfer to our account in the next 3 days. In the meantime, and just in case the money never comes through… here are two pictures of the guys. This picture was taken after we signed the contract. The one in the polo shirt is the VP (I got a special ‘conservative’ suit for this trip!) and the one with the suit is the CFO. Has anyone tried contacting the Chinese embassy or something like that? You can see my original post (including pics) at: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=81284 The name of the company they used this time was: Hebei Dingsheng Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd. They did not use hotmail but @163.com. Their website is www.sjzdingsheng.com.cn/en I feel pretty dumb as I write these lines. But after reading the posts here I am coming to terms with the possibility that it happened to me recently.
Basically, it worked the same way you are describing it here: I got an email showing interest for one of our products. After a few ‘ping-pong’ emails negociating the terms for a $750k contract they asked me to come sign it in China. When asked, they said that because the client was the government they had to have an original stamp on the document… I also tried the ‘pay something in advance to show commitment’ trick but they claimed that the government will not pay this in advance and it’s imperative that we sign it there. They offered to take care of 50% of my travel expenses after they got the cash from their client.
The odds being $2000+ (for a 3 night stay) vs. $750k contract, I ended up going to Beijing on mid April 2009. I bought a book on Chinese Etiquete and downloaded some podcasts to learn some basic Chinese…
We finally had our meeting. Present were: the guy I had exchanged emails with (Zhang Lei), their “VP” called Wu Mingxuan – he appologized and said the wife of the CEO had an accident the night before so he couldn’t join…, their “CFO” (the guy with the official stamp) I never got his business card, and a woman translator (didn’t get her business card either).
We had a 3 hour meeting in which they told me about their company. They said it was established in 1976 and that it had a staff of 47 and did a lot of import/export activities. In addition, they claimed to have two manufacturing facilities in the fields of “food” and “textiles”. They also told me that every year towards July the company has a special dinner for their business associates and they have this special event in which they come from all over the world and spend time together. They tour them around the facilities and socialize over dinner.
After a while we went over the contract and when the translator said it was ok we went on and signed it. After this, I gave them a ‘corporate present’ I brought with me from the US (the book mentioned the importance of providing them with a gift…). They thanked me and then it started getting wierd: the “VP” suggested that in order to establish a good relationship with the company I should get a present for the CEO (who couldnt make it) and the 2 Presidents they have at corporate. I thanked him for the suggestion and told them I would have the hotel concierge take care of this. The VP insisted that we should do it now… that he has a few minutes and will gladly take me to a nearby shopping mall and will suggest something.
We went to this mall and they wanted me to spend $250 per present (x3)… when I told them this was to much and that I was willing to spend $100, the woman suggested that instead of 3 we should perhaps get one really nice present for the CEO… The VP pointed out a few times that a carton of cigarettes is $100… that I should really give them a nice present.
They pointed to this little frame with a golden ship and explained how this meant that we shall have a ’smooth’ relationship just as the ‘wind blows this ship’, etc. I said ok, and when I got the paper slip and when to pay at the cashier, I took the AMEX just on time because I noticed too many zeros on the register… I asked for a calculator and did my math: they were going to charge me $1800 USD… I told them this was way too much and that I would simply bring the CEO and the other 2 a nice present from the US when I came back on July. They insisted and that is when this whole thing kicked in… I told them that according to our tradition it was not nice to ’send someone a present’ and that I would simply bring it to them personally.
After this, they escorted me to the door of the shopping mall and we said goodbye. (Strangest business meeting farewell party).
I’m back home now and have been trying to contact them several times. No answer to emails and they won’t answer their phones. I am counting the business days (we’re now officially at 27) and hope to see a nice 40% down payment via wire transfer to our account in the next 3 days.
In the meantime, and just in case the money never comes through… here are two pictures of the guys. This picture was taken after we signed the contract. The one in the polo shirt is the VP (I got a special ‘conservative’ suit for this trip!) and the one with the suit is the CFO.
Has anyone tried contacting the Chinese embassy or something like that?
You can see my original post (including pics) at: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=81284

The name of the company they used this time was:
Hebei Dingsheng Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd.
They did not use hotmail but @163.com.
Their website is http://www.sjzdingsheng.com.cn/en

]]> By: Erik http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204491 Erik Tue, 26 May 2009 09:43:07 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204491 thank god I found all your comments and such sites in general. I was approached several time by Y&L Foreign Trading Co., Ltd. Building 48 LuanDong, No. Ten Western Road,Guilin, Guangxi China by CYNTHIA or Mengli Before that the contact was SPARROW from China Inlian Co., Ltd All of them asked for Export wines, showed decent interest and seemed to know something. When I took over for better communication they invited me to Guilin to meet the boss face-to-face. I had no time to do so while I am in China right now. So they responded by asking for samples of Icewine, only a few bottles, so that customs would not hold it back. Hope that helps, too. And again: Thanks! thank god I found all your comments and such sites in general. I was approached several time by
Y&L Foreign Trading Co., Ltd.
Building 48 LuanDong, No. Ten Western Road,Guilin, Guangxi China
by CYNTHIA or Mengli
Before that the contact was SPARROW from
China Inlian Co., Ltd

All of them asked for Export wines, showed decent interest and seemed to know something. When I took over for better communication they invited me to Guilin to meet the boss face-to-face. I had no time to do so while I am in China right now. So they responded by asking for samples of Icewine, only a few bottles, so that customs would not hold it back.

Hope that helps, too. And again: Thanks!

]]> By: Pavel http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204449 Pavel Fri, 15 May 2009 13:59:21 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204449 ATTENTION!!! On society Xi'an Qinchang Trading Co.,Ltd.These are swindlers.Are from houk CHEATS!!! ATTENTION!!! On society Xi’an Qinchang Trading Co.,Ltd.These are swindlers.Are from houk CHEATS!!!

]]> By: Global Exchange http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204442 Global Exchange Thu, 14 May 2009 06:14:38 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204442 I was contacted by a company asking for samples for some of the products I sell. I do not send out free samples to companies that do not fill out my buyer questionnaire form. When I sent the company listed below a questionnaire they told me they were annoyed with me and other companies send them samples without one. I AM NOT SENDING THEM ANYTHING FOR FREE!!! It has questions about bank references, business references, company officers and contact information. As business owners / entrepreneurs we must protect ourselves from people who want to create a problem with our cash flow. We must remember to always excercise due diligence. Below is a copy of my questionnaire, only serious business prospects will fill this form out. BUYER QUESTIONNAIRE Please return completed questionnaire to:_____________________________________________ General Information Company name:_________________________________________________________________________________________ Company address:_______________________________________________________________________________________ Telephone:___________________________________________ Fax:___________________________________________ E-mail:______________________________________________ Web Site:_______________________________________ Company Organization: Proprietorship____ Corporation____ Partnership____ Limited Liability____ Other____ Date Organized____________________________________ Principle officers or owners: 1) Name:_________________________________________ 2) Name:_______________________________________ Title:__________________________________________ Title:___________________________________________ Home Address:__________________________________ Home Address:___________________________________ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Home Phone:____________________________________ Home Phone:_____________________________________ 3) Name:_________________________________________ 4) Name:_______________________________________ Title:__________________________________________ Title:___________________________________________ Home Address:__________________________________ Home Address:___________________________________ ______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Home Phone:___________________________________ Home Phone:____________________________________ If your company is a subsidiary, list the name and address of parent company: _______________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Describe your company's major business activities: ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ FINANCIAL INFORMATION Bank name and complete address:___________________________________________________________________________ Telephone/fax, E-mail:____________________________________________________________________________________ U.S. Business references including names, address, telephone, fax, E-mail and Person to contact: a)_____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ b)_____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ c)__________________________________________________ Company name: GuiLin ZhoTo TradingCo.,Ltd Address: ZhongShangZhongLu No.45 HuaLianShangSha DuShiGuiGuan No. 2-5-3 GuiLin City ,GuangXi province,PRC Post Code: 541001 Tel：86-773-2819108 Fax: 86-773-2830283 Atten：Mr James（International marketing） Email：zhongchen99@yahoo.cn I was contacted by a company asking for samples for some of the products I sell. I do not send out free samples to companies that do not fill out my buyer questionnaire form.

When I sent the company listed below a questionnaire they told me they were annoyed with me and other companies send them samples without one.

I AM NOT SENDING THEM ANYTHING FOR FREE!!!

It has questions about bank references, business references, company officers and contact information.

As business owners / entrepreneurs we must protect ourselves from people who want to create a problem with our cash flow. We must remember to always excercise due diligence.

Below is a copy of my questionnaire, only serious business prospects will fill this form out.

BUYER QUESTIONNAIRE

Please return completed questionnaire to:_____________________________________________

General Information

Company name:_________________________________________________________________________________________

Company address:_______________________________________________________________________________________ Telephone:___________________________________________ Fax:___________________________________________
E-mail:______________________________________________ Web Site:_______________________________________

Company Organization: Proprietorship____ Corporation____ Partnership____ Limited Liability____ Other____

Date Organized____________________________________

Principle officers or owners:

1) Name:_________________________________________ 2) Name:_______________________________________
Title:__________________________________________ Title:___________________________________________
Home Address:__________________________________ Home Address:___________________________________
_______________________________________________ _______________________________________________
Home Phone:____________________________________ Home Phone:_____________________________________

3) Name:_________________________________________ 4) Name:_______________________________________
Title:__________________________________________ Title:___________________________________________
Home Address:__________________________________ Home Address:___________________________________
______________________________________________ _______________________________________________
Home Phone:___________________________________ Home Phone:____________________________________

If your company is a subsidiary, list the name and address of parent company: _______________________________________
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Describe your company’s major business activities: ____________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

FINANCIAL INFORMATION

Bank name and complete address:___________________________________________________________________________
Telephone/fax, E-mail:____________________________________________________________________________________

U.S. Business references including names, address, telephone, fax, E-mail and Person to contact:
a)_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
b)_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
c)__________________________________________________

Company name: GuiLin ZhoTo TradingCo.,Ltd

Address: ZhongShangZhongLu No.45 HuaLianShangSha DuShiGuiGuan No. 2-5-3 GuiLin City ,GuangXi province,PRC

Post Code: 541001

Tel：86-773-2819108
Fax: 86-773-2830283

Atten：Mr James（International marketing）

Email：zhongchen99@yahoo.cn

]]> By: Antonio http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204431 Antonio Sat, 09 May 2009 23:04:06 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204431 Dear Sirs, I want to add my name to the list of companies that had bad experience with GuiLin ZhoTo trading Co. I visited them and they used the same method and tried to get me to buy a very expensive present for their President. I refused and things got a little messy but it was a new and valuable experience. Please also add the names of Mo Aiyu, Ada Gong and Lucy to the list of contact people from this group. I have now been hearing about other Guilin companies that do this scam and have decided not to reply from any company from that city. Dear Sirs,

I want to add my name to the list of companies that had bad experience with GuiLin ZhoTo trading Co. I visited them and they used the same method and tried to get me to buy a very expensive present for their President. I refused and things got a little messy but it was a new and valuable experience. Please also add the names of Mo Aiyu, Ada Gong and Lucy to the list of contact people from this group.

I have now been hearing about other Guilin companies that do this scam and have decided not to reply from any company from that city.

]]> By: Trung Nguyen http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204414 Trung Nguyen Mon, 04 May 2009 12:12:44 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204414 I also got contacted by Xi'an Qinchang Trading Co., Ltd. China. Can anyone give me feedback on this company? Is this company fake as well? Thanks I also got contacted by Xi’an Qinchang Trading Co., Ltd. China. Can anyone give me feedback on this company? Is this company fake as well?

Thanks

]]> By: g.mckinney http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204400 g.mckinney Fri, 01 May 2009 14:47:21 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204400 We have been approached by these four companies for our olive oil and cigarettes. I know that Guilin Zho To Trading Co, Ltd is a fraud because we have had dealings with them before. I'm sure that a westly0093@yahoo.com from the company Y&L Foreign Trading co. of Guilin, Gaungxi is also, note the same city.The third co. is calling themselves,societe_dieudonne Cameroon, email address societe dieudonne@yahoo.ca, a Mr. Dieudonne Fotso. The forth is a Mr. Kelly guz from England, email address kelly_guz@yahoo.com. Has any one had any dealings with any of these people. All have free email, Yahoo service which makes me think they are all frauds. Any information would be appreciated. Pac Rim Holdings We have been approached by these four companies for our olive oil and cigarettes. I know that Guilin Zho To Trading Co, Ltd is a fraud because we have had dealings with them before. I’m sure that a westly0093@yahoo.com from the company Y&L Foreign Trading co. of Guilin, Gaungxi is also, note the same city.The third co. is calling themselves,societe_dieudonne Cameroon, email address societe dieudonne@yahoo.ca, a Mr. Dieudonne Fotso. The forth is a Mr. Kelly guz from England, email address kelly_guz@yahoo.com. Has any one had any dealings with any of these people. All have free email, Yahoo service which makes me think they are all frauds. Any information would be appreciated. Pac Rim Holdings

]]> By: Yercka http://www.onejerusalem.com/2007/05/09/chinese-internet-scam-buying-center-trip-to-china-guilin-youlianshiye/comment-page-1/#comment-204393 Yercka Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:47:17 +0000 http://www.onejerusalem.com/?p=866#comment-204393 Recently I have been asked to go to China by Ms.Alice from GuiLin ZhoTo Trading Co.,Ltd, after reading these comments I do not really what to think about, because they seemed so serious, but they did not send me an invitation letter they are only interested me to go there in order to negotiate face to face. I do not really understand what they earn doing this fake. Recently I have been asked to go to China by Ms.Alice from GuiLin ZhoTo Trading Co.,Ltd, after reading these comments I do not really what to think about, because they seemed so serious, but they did not send me an invitation letter they are only interested me to go there in order to negotiate face to face. I do not really understand what they earn doing this fake.

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